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aboard the space station right now to

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talk about the possibility of being an

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astronaut living and working on board

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the space station so to do that we have

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astronaut jack fisher who's one of the

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astronauts who was selected in the class

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of 2009 just recently

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and is a fully certified astronaut and

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is supporting missions from here in

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mission control and could be flying to

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the space station

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we're going to talk about what it takes

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to get into the astronaut program

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because right now nasa is going through

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the process of selecting astronauts the

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application is open until next friday

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january 27th at

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www.nasa.gov slash fly nasa

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so uh jack thank you for joining us

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thank you for having me we'd like to

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talk about your background and see how

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you got to come here today you bet

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just a a quick summary i i grew up in

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colorado like you

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go broncos or maybe not

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not this year and uh

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from there i went to the air force

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academy and uh on to mit to get my

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graduate degree

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and then i went into

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flying in the air force and uh flew

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f-15e strike eagles at uh

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in north carolina and

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mountain home idaho

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and then went to edwards air force base

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test pilot school

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went through there and then

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but tested

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f-15s and f-22s and

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eventually i was picked up when i was in

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dc for a year for a uh

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internship

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a wild ride but

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worked out pretty good in the end yeah

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yeah that you're here um so you're still

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in the air force you're absolutely

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lieutenant colonel correct and how does

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that work that you're active in the air

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force but also an astronaut well you

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know it's kind of like

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nasa wrenchia from the air force so

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we're still we're still required to do

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the requirements as far as schooling and

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professional military education while

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we're here but we're also

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you know active assets at nasa and we we

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do our jobs here at nasa so

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we're just basically being rented we're

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glad to have you absolutely i'm glad to

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be here i bet uh and how does the

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process to apply work for a military

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astronaut so it's it's similar to

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civilians but there's just a few more

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hoops that you have to go through yeah

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their usa jobs application so make sure

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you do that before next week

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another application that will start at

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your base and then go up to the magicom

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major command they call them afpc which

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is our personnel command at least this

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is the air force way but all the

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services are the same

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and then from there they will screen you

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look at your medical and and your

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background and see if you're an eligible

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candidate and then forward those names

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to nasa and for the most part when they

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forward those names that's kind of like

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given a key

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to nasa to say all right you can unlock

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their usajobs application now so at that

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point now they can look at your

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application and consider you in the

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larger pool of several thousand people

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to narrow you down to who they interview

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and who they eventually pick okay so

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that you still apply at the government

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website which you can reach by going to

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and then the process through the

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military takes a little bit longer but

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the civilian group that's going through

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you start a little earlier but you sync

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up in the end okay so you came down for

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the interviews absolutely so

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they narrow it down to about 400 folks

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your references to actually fill out a

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reference and send it in

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people will come down in in several

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days that that round and and based on

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how you interact with everyone and

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all sorts of tests but mainly a big

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interview where you're sitting at this

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this t-shaped table and you're you're in

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the corner of the table so you have

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people sitting back behind you and off

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uncomfortable and see how you'll react

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these folks and back up and look at

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go through some medical tests and uh

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the uh t table of terror

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um and so the the process seems pretty

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competitive we've already had more than

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2 800 applications for this group and

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typically get about 2500 to 3 000 so but

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people do make it do you have

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suggestions for for people that want to

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apply out there well

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you know a lot of how they select i have

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no idea and i i just feel lucky that i

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was able to make it

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and i think luck has a lot to do with it

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your timing and everything else so the

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most important thing that you can do is

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i had a an ops officer he's kind of the

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guy who runs the squadron in a uh the

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flying operations in a in a fighter

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squadron and he once told me if you want

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to fly you got to stand by the ops desk

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and be ready to fly

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if if you're not there and you're not

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ready if you don't apply if you don't

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take that step you'll never get picked

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the best the best advice you can have

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for anyone is to put your name in the

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hat do your your best effort to to put

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what you are and how you

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what you are as a person onto paper

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which is a good self-examination

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exercise regardless what happens and

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process and how fun is it to be here

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like to be you know it's fantastic we've

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an adjustment for me uh going from an

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air force culture to to nasa but uh

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i've gotten a lot of experiences that

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several weeks in japan

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we've gone to germany

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where we do at the neutral buoyancy

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laboratory and for a guy who grew up on

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my family was into construction being

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able to build stuff underwater is just a

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dream come true so absolutely love it

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over there and then the chance we're

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sitting in the mission control room

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being a capcom or capsule communicator

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it's a holdover name from from the

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the early space program days but

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basically we get to sit in this group

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this room of just

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amazing people and and be able to

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communicate with the crew on a daily

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basis in fact that's why i'm wearing a

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tie right now is because i i just got

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night before whatever it's it's late in

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my world right now

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there was a problem with the exercise

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exercise exercise device there you go

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a-red anyway a-red wasn't working and

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out and it was broken

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you know called down and said this is

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why it's not working this part is broken

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square peg fit in this round hole and

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worked and and i came back in at you

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know about three o'clock this morning

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and there's already a procedure all made

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up with pictures of exactly how we're

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going to fix this thing and we send it

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you know about an hour later dan

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goes through it and says hey there's a

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few pieces that aren't going to work

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there's some things that are missing and

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grabbed some velcro and

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able to fix this thing and and it's uh

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it's a very exciting part of what i do

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just to be able to interact and see

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of the mcc to be the major leagues um

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everybody in here is top of their game

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they're just amazing people so to be

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knowing what the team does down here

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i like watching how they move around

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and when they start up there and they're

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a brand new crew they're kind of

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tentative and they're kind of moving

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slowly and and then

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and then by the end they're just

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graceful like swans you know floating

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through and pushing off and going half

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the distance

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uh don pettit who's up there right now

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i i love watching him because it seems

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every time i see him moving through the

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space station he goes in a different way

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last night he was like walking almost

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like he was on the moon and and today

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pushing and then would put himself into

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a little cannonball and go through about

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two modules and reach out his arm and go

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it's just

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it's silly things but it's it's

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fascinating to to see and to watch

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and so i i hope i'm picking up enough

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that that i'll be able to apply that

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someday

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on the station

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that's good experience here and then you

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mentioned you're training all over the

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world that's

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going to all of our different partners

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for the space station program and

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so what else do you do now that you're

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sort of an operational astronaut for the

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office so i kind of work we have

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branches in the astronaut office and i

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kind of have little pieces and and all

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sorts of branches

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i work in the soyuz branch and

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what we try to do is compile all of the

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the study guides and the information

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about soyuz so that as people go to star

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city to

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go through their training for the soyuz

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they can

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you know have a leg up and be able to

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prepare themselves and have a resource

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i'm also working here in the capcom

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branch i am a crew support astronaut for

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an upcoming actually the next uh two

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increments increment 31 and 32

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sunny williams joe acaba and

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akihido

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and

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it it's it's great to be able to go

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through the flow and and watch

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everything that they're doing and and

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i've also been assigned to a

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an eva the spacewalk um

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that aki and and sunny are supposed to

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be doing

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and being able to go to

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the mbl the neutral buoyancy laboratory

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our big old pool all the time and and

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watch them and and just go through the

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whole process of

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this elaborate dance that is a spacewalk

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has been

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a lot of fun so

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i'm just kind of spread all over the

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place that's good that's good to get the

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experience and then hopefully um you'll

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support the space station as a crew

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member i hope so and then there's also

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the possibility of your class or the

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next class that's being hired of going

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on our new vehicles what what hopes do

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you have for that and

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you know that's probably one of the most

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exciting things right now is is

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we have this new sls

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heavy launch system that we're pursuing

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as well as the multi-purpose crew

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vehicle or ryan this capsule that

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you know in the past the shuttle

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is

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was built for low earth orbit whereas

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we're building this vehicle to come back

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at higher re-entry angles uh from places

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like the moon and asteroids and mars and

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and beyond so

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it's a very exciting time to

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be here

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and even imagine the possibility of of

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taking that next evolutionary step for

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mankind so

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and you mentioned how you help with it i

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mean even while the space station is

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going and we're supporting that we're

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also and your office is involved in

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helping design the future vehicles

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absolutely we have an entire branch

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called the exploration branch which is

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right now working not only with our

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commercial

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partners

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also designing and

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helping to build that that space launch

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system and the heavy lift and orion and

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just really push us to the next level

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they even have a

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proposal right now of making a

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orbiting facility and one of the earth

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moon

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it's a lagrange point it's kind of a

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gravity point that between two body

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systems that you don't really have to

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expend any energy to stay there it's

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kind of like no gravity so you can put a

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big old station up there and you don't

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have to

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station keep and

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if we had that big laboratory kind of

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like the space station only on the other

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side of the moon we'd be able to launch

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from there

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down to the moon for excursions to

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control

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all sorts of vehicles on the moon it

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would be a great next step

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for us to perfect our systems and our

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processes before we

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go further and go to places like mars

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and beyond mm-hmm

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well um thank you for coming and

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speaking with us and if you have any

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more final advice for people that need

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to apply before next friday

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well just apply and and

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would say that

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you know i've been going around trying

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to encourage folks to apply and and one

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thing

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that i'd i wouldn't do is you shouldn't

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live your life

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gunning for one thing at nasa it's too

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much based on luck i'm a good example of

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that

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you should uh follow your heart and if

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you're passionate about what you do and

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and you you truly bring who you are to

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everything that you put your name on

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then you'll

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you'll stand out and eventually good

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things will happen

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okay well thank you and again the

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application and more background about

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the process and the qualifications and

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blogs from other astronauts in in jack

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fisher's position are all online at